but i lost and then president obama asked me to be secretary of state. and i said yes. >> geraldo: what do you figure, bill kristol -- that appearance as president obama tilting toward hillary in 2016? or just thanking her for her hard work on behalf of his administration? >> i think tharching her, it's nice to see them, you know, tig the bow on four years of working together. but look, the cold judgment's going to be about whether the foreign and international security policies have worked. what the withdrawal from afghanistan is going to mean. how things are going in north africa, cuts in the defense budget. women in combat. the president's doing a lot in the foreign defense policy. in his first term, he was more moderate, he stayed in the center, he kept bob gates and general petraeus and leon panet a. now he has a doveish agend a. hillary clinton he was more hawkish than john kerry will be. i am worried personally for four years of the new obama team in national security. >> reporter: >> geraldo: you know, in that regard, i don't want to be a conspir